just ran a '95 dohc..

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just ran a '95 dohc..

Post by 98R/T » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:07 pm

I have a '98 r/t with pretty much all bolt-ons; intake, header, cat back, pcm, udp, atx tb, egr blockoff,.. yada yada yada..

My friend has a '95 with a dohc motor w/just a header, exhaust, and atx tb..

I ran him about 6 months before he put the new tb on and beat him by about 10 cars..

Yesterday, i pulled about 1 car on him through first and second gear, but when i reached third, he started pulling on me until we let off..

I don't understand why he gained that much cars on me just by putting that tb on. I ran a pretty good race as far as starting and shifting and stuff, but he is not any better at driving than me? so i dnt know.. what do u guys think?
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Post by todd 11 » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:14 pm

i dont know what it could be
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Post by BlueR/T » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:54 pm

weight, it makes all the difference

example:

my R/T stock: 15.7
my R/T with MPP PCM, ATX tb, Iceman, header, exhaust, sub box, 17" rims: 16.3

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Post by 98R/T » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:59 pm

yeh, that makes a little since, but 10 cars the first time next to 1 the second??? my car would also weight a lot less if i didn;t have those 17"s on there..
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Post by BlueR/T » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:11 am

yeah, 17" rims are a give/take addition, they give you outstanding handling, but take alot from your acceleration rate

and i used to race a sohc atx at las vegas motor speedway, i would run low-mid 16's he would run low 18's and usually i was about 8-10 cars ahead of him at the turn around point

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Post by chipdogg » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:24 am

Plus the fact that the 17's are rotating mass that your engine has to physically spin. Same reason it's easier to turn a breaker bar than a small ratchet, it's WHERE the weight is.

And the 17's don't make you handle better, it's the low profile tires. Plus your 17's might be wider so you'll have a better contact patch and less sidewall flex when you try cornering. The tire itself also makes a huge difference since they prolly aren't cheap wal-mart specials.
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Post by BlueR/T » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:51 am

chipdogg wrote: And the 17's don't make you handle better, it's the low profile tires. Plus your 17's might be wider so you'll have a better contact patch and less sidewall flex when you try cornering. The tire itself also makes a huge difference since they prolly aren't cheap wal-mart specials.
yeah thats what i meant, i don't see anyone putting a 17" 90 series tire on a neon :lol:

so far the best tire ive had for handling is the yokoma parada spec 2,

Federal SS595's are better but they lose their stickyness after about 5 minutes

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Post by Tyler » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:52 pm

SO the 17's would make that big of difference? Still, they had already raced once with the rims on there. The only addition to either car was the atx tb on the 95. This makes no sence but really happened.
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Post by BlueR/T » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:17 pm

that may be the only performance addon, but has anyone put subs in their car? or removed weight,

remember that acceleration is not determined by horsepower, it's horsepower to weight

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Post by fusion210 » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:02 pm

He may have improved his driving as well.

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Post by todd 11 » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:47 pm

the 95 got a system that takes up the whole trunk he forced it in and can barley get it out...haha
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Post by ShelbyTurbo » Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:46 am

my car with a fullsize spare, jack and tools, two sets of '80s FSM's, a Turbo Valve cover, a full socket set (metric and standard, deep and shallow lol), full interior, small alpine amp and a 10" DVC sub and box (the amp and box probably wieghs in at 30 lbs together), ran a 15.9, with a crappy 60 ft.

best run was with the car empty, no rear seats, or front passenger seat, spare, jack, and tools on the front passenger floor, and no center console.

15.6 with a crappy 60 ft.

This was with stock 14" tires, weight makes a big difference, especially when added to the wrong places, like a big brake kit, and heavier wheels and tires.
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