wheel cylinder or master cylinder?

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wheel cylinder or master cylinder?

Post by subzero » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:26 pm

ok so my car is having brake issue (non abs) and i dont have brakes looked master cylinder was empty filled it got them back and then within in the next 2 days the master cylinder was empty again and if i fill it i get them back but then it goes empty quickly so is it a bad wheel cylinder or a leaky master cylinder or something else?
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Post by metal_gear_jon » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:25 pm

If it's leaking that bad, you should see a puddle of brake fluid somewhere. Or it could be rotted brake lines, which are the norm for these cars.
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Post by JmAnneonrt » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:28 pm

thats what i was thinking it may be your lines i had to redo the lines on my 95 stang, cheapest for you id sit the car in one spot put brake fluid in and pump your brakes and follow your lines and see if its leaking anywhere.
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Post by jamieely » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:30 pm

More than likely its going to be one of the back lines. All mine in the rear rusted but everything from there up was in great shape. I have the 95's had a either a recall on this or a TSB. I don't know what year your neon is but you should definetely be getting a puddle. My guess is in the rear though. My first failure was the metal line right before it switches to rubber on the rear driver side. About a year later I had another failure on the passenger side in the rear. This is a good reason to keep your emergency/hand brake well adjusted and in good working order. It does not require brake fluid to operate, mine saved my ass both times my brakes went out.
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:08 am

[-( to owning a stang. But yea just do whats been said, and check the brake lines.
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Post by subzero » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:32 am

jamieely wrote:More than likely its going to be one of the back lines. All mine in the rear rusted but everything from there up was in great shape. I have the 95's had a either a recall on this or a TSB. I don't know what year your neon is but you should definetely be getting a puddle. My guess is in the rear though. My first failure was the metal line right before it switches to rubber on the rear driver side. About a year later I had another failure on the passenger side in the rear. This is a good reason to keep your emergency/hand brake well adjusted and in good working order. It does not require brake fluid to operate, mine saved my ass both times my brakes went out.
i checked my lines one of the metals ones is rusted...and i checked them in the rear there was no puddle and i followed them them the whole way none of them were wet
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:34 am

Is there a pool of fluid anywhere?
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Post by subzero » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:36 am

98yoda wrote:Is there a pool of fluid anywhere?

no
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:38 am

None under the engine bay? leaking into your rims from the caiper? nothing?
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Post by subzero » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:41 am

98yoda wrote:None under the engine bay? leaking into your rims from the caiper? nothing?
nothing its all dry my dad thinks its my wheel cylinder and its all pooling up on the drum and he said he saw a pool when i left his house on the right side in the back but there is no pools at my house
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:43 am

You could pull off the drum and check it. Or check the bleeder valve, make sure thats on right. Or just the nut that holds the brake line to the cylinder. You might get lucky.
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Post by subzero » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:46 am

98yoda wrote:You could pull off the drum and check it. Or check the bleeder valve, make sure thats on right. Or just the nut that holds the brake line to the cylinder. You might get lucky.
guess its time to learn how to do drum brakes
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:48 am

Oh I hate them, thats why I switched to discs. But drums arent to bad :)
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Post by subzero » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:56 am

98yoda wrote:Oh I hate them, thats why I switched to discs. But drums arent to bad :)
i just wish my manual told my how to remove those stupid retaining clips its jsut like "remove retaining clips with no picture" im like " :?: "
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Post by 98yoda » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:00 am

Grab the tip of the bolt thing with pliers and hand turn the clip till it slides off. I wish I had a pic to show you.
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