aprox how much WHP

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aprox how much WHP

Post by pettersen » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:34 pm

Would this setup get me:

Engine: 2.0 Sohc MTX

Mopar performance pcm (Got it)
P&P head
Crane #14
Pacecetter header (Got it)
aftermarket exhaust can (Got it)
Atx TB (Got it)
CAI (Got it)


I know there is no way to give an accurate number, but if i guess 140 would that be right?
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Post by mahifish » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:45 pm

id get rid of that pacesetter and replace it with a LTH and you would gain a little bit more.
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Post by pettersen » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:55 pm

Yhea but i already got the pacecetter, so that's not gonna happen in a while, maby later when i got more money tho.
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Post by hybrid-srt2001 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:02 am

i say 140-145 tops

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Re: aprox how much WHP

Post by Nono » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:16 pm

pettersen wrote:Would this setup get me:

Engine: 2.0 Sohc MTX

Mopar performance pcm (Got it)
P&P head
Crane #14
Pacecetter header (Got it)
aftermarket exhaust can (Got it)
Atx TB (Got it)
CAI (Got it)


I know there is no way to give an accurate number, but if i guess 140 would that be right?
As reference. We got a 2000 sohc in here w/

Stock atx pcm (but made swap to mtx 3.55)
UDP
Peacesetter Header
DOHC intake manifold adapted to SOHC 90° elbow cut
Full race head job
2.5" exaust no cat
Free flow muffler
Cam Sprocket
Crane 12
JE 10:5:1 Pistons over .040
TB CHerokee

It pulled 156hp / 132tq on an old Dyno Jet limiting @ stock 6700rpms. Im sure ATX PCM and Peacesetter header are hurting hp a lot but if an upgrade for a LTH and MS can get 165hp for sure.

It ran vs 2001 R/T 14.7s (170hp) Neon last weekend but lost by 2 cars.

So let say with your mods you should be close 145hp. Considering 2gn are heavier for around 300-400 pounds. Looking to that 2001 numbers. You are about to make high 14s with some light weight redux (no spare tire, no seats, no peace of metal on FMM, no p/s belt, no airbags... etc.).

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Post by RydinSolo » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:04 pm

Depends on who does the porting..if you do it it wil be less unless you really know what your doing!!!

I'd go with 2.5" exhaust, 14 cam, LTH, pnp head, box style intake manifold, solid mounts, mopar ecu, remove ac/ps, iceman CAI(or 3.0), bigger TB and you should be good

If your head is ported decent and they/you opened it up pretty good, then you might be a little more..the shorty header is gogin to kill you, i'd say when you get more money upgrade to a LTH(even Ebay ones they fit decent and are only like $215)....
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Post by Nono » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:06 pm

I p/p'ed the head myself. Got no experience porting but really concern on what I was doing. Everything went ok... Then from 14.7s to 14.5s just porting? Invested $10 on a new IM gasket?? PRICELESS !!! :D
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Post by wickedgoodneon » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:09 pm

between 120 and 130 tops

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Post by INVUJerry » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:29 pm

A stock SOHC dyno's around 120, you really think with a head, cam, intake mani, and header it'll only gain 10 HP?
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Post by pettersen » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:22 pm

Well i have a Crane #14 on it's way from modern now :D

So i need to save up some money for a p&p and i will get a Safc 2 Neo when i can afford it.
And i'm using 98 Octane i guess that will help a bit.

When i get it all installed and tuned i will get it on a Dyno, and see what the result is, and if our guesses where right :) My goal is atleast 140WHP, anything above will just make me Jizz in my pants :P

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Post by wickedgoodneon » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:30 pm

INVUJerry wrote:A stock SOHC dyno's around 120, you really think with a head, cam, intake mani, and header it'll only gain 10 HP?
WOW where are you getting you numbers? Ive seen anywhere from 109 to 111 hp

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Post by INVUJerry » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:14 pm

I'm going off the stock 03-05 dyno's I've seen. 123 is the highest stock I've seen. With a well taken care of motor I can see it. I wish I could have dyno'd my 98 when it was bone stock, it was making solid power.
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Post by SloUSDM20 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:32 pm

INVUJerry wrote:A stock SOHC dyno's around 120, you really think with a head, cam, intake mani, and header it'll only gain 10 HP?
not necessarily...my old stock SOHC w/ just a 55mm TB, 3.0 Intake and a Chikara header only put me at 110whp/125wtq

my semi built setup w/ Crane #12, Fidanza gear, ported intake mani, 55mm TB, 3.0 intake, Mopar PCM, same header, bigger cat, and OBX UDP, Summit racing turbo muffler, put me around 125whp/128wtq--siezed block

my High CR(10.4:1) SOHC setup w/ Crane #12, semi ported head and milled .030, all same mods as listed above w/ a DOHC block, Fidanza 2.1 clutch, put me at 127whp/125wtq--spun rod bearing

My last SOHC setup before the DOHC swap w/ Crane #14, fully ported and polished head, Mopar springs, 2001 block, Fidanza 2.1 clutch, same header, DOHC PCM, all same bolt ons, SAFC put me at 142whp/139wtq--spun rod bearing
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Post by INVUJerry » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:45 pm

Really man? I would just expect better from all these.
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