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Post by misfit4life » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:35 pm

are they good for a daily driver ? or to big?

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Post by INVUJerry » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:47 pm

Lots of people DD with it. I donno how good on gas it is though.
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Post by AMM » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:45 pm

perfect for a DD........ i have one and love it. its got a little baby lope to it :P


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Post by misfit4life » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:52 pm

how is the gas mileage?
and whats a loop?

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Post by AMM » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:23 pm

misfit4life wrote:how is the gas mileage?
and whats a loop?
its not going to affect ur gas milage a whole lot but u will use more. lope is what muscle cars do........... they lope at idle........ its sounds like they are going to die or they are running rough but they dont and they arent. its because of the valve over lap on the crane 14.


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Post by 6(sic)6 » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:10 pm

^ I thought my 14 would lope more than it does, It basically is stock sounding. Iam running Mega Squirt tho and can tune a good idle tho. Not sure if it would make a diff
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Post by INVUJerry » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:31 pm

6(sic)6 wrote:^ I thought my 14 would lope more than it does, It basically is stock sounding. Iam running Mega Squirt tho and can tune a good idle tho. Not sure if it would make a diff
I heard a 14 on a turbo 01 R/T (sohc) with a 3" side exit. That thing sounded so BEAST. Def rough sounding, you of course, have more tuning ability.
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Post by chipdogg » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:04 pm

Neon_freak has a Crane 14, doesn't sound all cool or anything.

Xkidrt's 007 sounded damn good though :)
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Post by Nono » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:39 am

chipdogg wrote:Neon_freak has a Crane 14, doesn't sound all cool or anything.

Xkidrt's 007 sounded damn good though :)
My experience:

If you want some power but still DD with aggressive tb response: Then Crane 14 or Comp 400. More than that Crane 007.


As far as I know XKidrt's car pulled 181hp w/ 007 + the twicked old '95 Jeff's ECU. Unfortunatelly he went DOHC since few months ago:

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Post by infil » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:30 pm

mine has always loped pretty descent with the 14. As long as you have a stockish intake in it DD will be fine. If your running something with alot of plenum and not alot of runner, you'll have a pretty limited powerband under 4k hehe.

Overall should be the starting point for SOHC cams IMO :)
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Post by AMM » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:22 pm

:lol: nice :P i have the whole stock exhaust system on my car so its just a little bit quieter than urs if u know what i mean.


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Post by 6(sic)6 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:28 pm

infil wrote:mine has always loped pretty descent with the 14. As long as you have a stockish intake in it DD will be fine. If your running something with alot of plenum and not alot of runner, you'll have a pretty limited powerband under 4k hehe.

Overall should be the starting point for SOHC cams IMO :)
Ill have to take an idleing vid of mine. You would NEVER think it had an aftermarket cam. Ill get an ocasional "miss" at idle but thats about it......
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Post by chipdogg » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:14 am

Nono wrote:As far as I know XKidrt's car pulled 181hp w/ 007 + the twicked old '95 Jeff's ECU. Unfortunatelly he went DOHC since few months ago:

http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t ... t&start=25
He went the 2.4 route after his car got stripped of parts twice in June and July and Jeff's cool PCM got jacked. It's since been recovered but he knew he could get more power out of the 2.4 than a SOHC since he about maxxed his out.
'97 black ACR coupe- #3 - Scrappy
'96 black coupe- #4
'97 magenta coupe- #10 - 13.379 @ 101.07 mph
'04 SXT mtx - #45 - GF's DD
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'95 Astro Van
'11 Chevy Express
'02 atx - #48
'98 Intense Blue R/T - #49
'04 SRT-4 - #50
'99 Intense Blue R/T - #51

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Post by infil » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:04 pm

just listened to that video again, it doesn't really lope too much int hat vid, that was right after i put the intake manifold on it, that completely changed the cars behavior, and it had a bit of a vacum leak sooo was idling around 1500.

it looks like i killed an injector last time out and right now i'm not too keen to change it as the motor is getting replaced, however if i get the opportunity i'll take a fresh video for ya.
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